tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-939446256067601558.post2073696437489400645..comments2023-05-19T06:49:46.663-03:00Comments on Αporia: Again on the Synthese AffairDEMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11232875519982188244noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-939446256067601558.post-57166643298028836052011-05-24T18:05:27.158-03:002011-05-24T18:05:27.158-03:00You're right in that. But it still seems to me...You're right in that. But it still seems to me (and some people from the US agree) that it is extremely unlikely that what happened with Synthese would have terrible effects on science education in the US.<br /><br />At least sometimes disagreements are not resolved, but I have no problems with that.<br /><br />CheersDEMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11232875519982188244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-939446256067601558.post-39655761222249231842011-05-24T17:42:42.748-03:002011-05-24T17:42:42.748-03:00Dr. Machuca: observing that you, a resident of Ar...Dr. Machuca: observing that you, a resident of Argentina I infer from the information you have on-line, are under-informed about how the ID proponents, including Beckwith, operate was not an insult. As to what constitutes acceptable norms of discourse, I am entitled to my opinion, and you to yours. I had hoped you might share mine in this instance.<br /><br />In any case, thank you for the opportunity to express my reservations about your initial characterization of the matter.Brian Leiterhttp://www.brianleiter.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-939446256067601558.post-85735176055391593412011-05-24T13:48:58.520-03:002011-05-24T13:48:58.520-03:00Yes, I'm probably unsurprinsingly under-inform...Yes, I'm probably unsurprinsingly under-informed or ill-informed and unprofessional. (You seem to think you're the criterion regarding what is and is not professional, but I'll grant you that.) Be that as it may, it still seems to me that those who are serious scholars and try to assess arguments objectively will examine Beckwith's arguments and views carefully and will draw their own conclusions. What I think is important is that the papers were published without any changes, so that Forrest's case against Beckwith is there for us to consider.<br /><br />I thank you for this discussion.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />DEMDEMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11232875519982188244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-939446256067601558.post-40598281229354162362011-05-24T13:25:18.356-03:002011-05-24T13:25:18.356-03:00Can you not see that the entire issue boils down t...Can you not see that the entire issue boils down to #3? We have a substantive disagreement about this. Unsurprisingly, you are under-informed about how the ID proponents operate, and what the ramifications of the disclaimer and Beckwith's exploitation of it will be for Barbara Forrest's work defending science education in the public schools. There have been some good discussions of this at the New APPS blog.<br /><br />But you want to interpret the substantive disagreement as evidence of an "obsession." An obsession is an unattractive personal trait, and to describe someone as obsessed is obviously to describe them as behaving irrationally. In fact, I have a different, and more rational, appraisal of the editorial misconduct and its consequences, and would, like many others, like to see the situation remedied. I have no firm opinion about whether the editors should resign, and you should be honest enough not to impute a view to me. I also say what I think, and at the point at which I think resignation is the only suitable option, I will say so.<br /><br />I do now realize this is your personal blog and not a group blog devoted to skepticism. You are, of course, free to write whatever you want, no matter how ill-informed, and on any subject of your choosing. I congratulate you for not being "easily intimidated." But no one was trying to intimidate you. I was hoping that you might, on reflection, reconsider the tact you have taken in light of norms of professional discussion.Brian Leiterhttp://www.brianleiter.netnoreply@blogger.com